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@Manikumar: Thanks for stopping by. I am sure that Siddhar Thirumoolar will guide you in your quest.
Great masters like him know and guide his disciples accordingly.
@Muthu: I will share the information that I can.
@Deepan: My perspective about the world did change.
@Sudhaa: Thanks for sharing your experience. Please stop by and let us know your experience with the mantra.
@Rohini: You are very welcome. Masters have an amazing way of using our thoughts and the internet to guide us in our spiritual journey.
@Guru BGN: Thank you for your thoughtful comment. As the saying goes, “Birds of a feather flock together” all of Siddhar Thirumoolar’s disciples find a common place.
@R. Ganesan: Thank you very much for the wishes and wish you the same.
-Desika
dear iya,
is any mantra to contact sidhar konkanavar
regards
arul
Dear Arul,
Sorry I don’t know the mantra for Siddhar Konkanavar. One idea is, you can chant the mantra given here for Siddhar Thirumoolar and request him to get you in touch with Siddhar Konkanavar. That could work!
-Desika
I want to know about our sidders. About their power and how to contact them.
Kindly do the needful
I came across this site thorough one of my friend. You shared really an amazing experience with us. I was so atracted towards the manthra and started to chant since yesterday. I am little curious about the 52 words in teh manthra. When I counted it only has 26(including the Om) but not 52. Then later I realized was it could be due to the combination ‘Uyir+Mei’ characters in tamil? For e.g: Va = Aa + ivh ? I am not sure whether myunderstanding towards the 52 manthra is correct or not. kindly advise.
Thanks
Malar
Malar,
Analyzing whether the mantra is 25 lettered, 51 syllabled, or 52 syllabled is all just a mental exercise and does not lend its power to you through that analysis. Only chanting it does. The deeper meaning is that 51 letters of the Sanskrit alphabet vibrate with the power of “Om Na Ma Si Va Ya”.
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Desika
Hi Desika,
thanks for explanation. It was just out of curiosity I asked that question. Anyhow, I have already started chanting the manthra for the past 2 days continously. Thanks for sharing
-malar-
Can anyone tell me the skanda kartikeya bija mantra ?
Malar,
I know it was out of curiosity you asked. I hope that you did not take my comment the wrong way, it sounded from your comment that you were taken aback a bit.
Desika
Popescu Ion,
There are several mantras of Skanda/Kartikeya/Subrahmanya. Here is one that I know of.
Om sang subrahmaNyam
When you chant aloud or mentally it would sound like this:
Ong sng su brng maN yam
Meaning:
Ong — primordial vibration
sng — Siva – Wisdom
su — Ganesha — Integration of celestial and physical bodies., i.e. your entire being.
brng — Kartikeya/kumAra/subrahmanya — Warrior, fearless expression, youthfulness
maN — Saraswati – flow of beauty and creativity
yam — Krishna – heart energy – playfulness, enchantment.
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Desika
Hi Desika,
sorry if my mail sounded so. I never felt such actually. Perhaps, I am not good in wordings my sentence
I have been chanting the manthra continuously. .Thanks for the sharing 
have a blessed day ahead
-Malar-
i m in need of a adhyatmic guru to start perfect meditation, self realisation etc. actually i need to know what i should do? i m feeling aimless. please guide me. i will be happy i will receive a mail.
thank you.
Dear Shukla,
I think Desika’s busy with his work. I will take the freedom of pointing you to the path which I walk. Check out this site : http://www.sivayoga.com ; Here the teachings of Siddhar Thirumoolar are presented and relayed by Sivakami Om Anandi. I personally found them highly beneficial and would recommend that to anyone who desperately needs to advance systematically in the spiritual path. All the best!
Hi Jai,
Thanks for replying.
I replied to Manjeet Shukla directly over email, as I have already posted the same answer many times over in the comments above. Looks like it is time to write up a FAQ!
Thanks again for taking time to answer the question.
Desika
Dear Anna’s,
I just happened to read out all those articles…really got enlighted about the Siddhar Thirumoolar Contact..For the past one year or so..I am following the siddhar worshipping…visiting their samadis…i am now desperately looking to have the contact of siddhars…Pls advise me..on my way forward in my spritual Journey
Hello,
Iam D.S.Madhavan from Chennai . Iam very exicited while i was reding your experience. I have been initated into Ananda Gandha through my beloved Guru. Really for the past three months some how i was attaracted to the great Siddhar Thirumoolar, constantly the Thirumoolar will occur in my mind without knowingly, even the thought made to search to diffrent sites, now today i got a connection with a person whom he had a vision of Sri Thirumoolar with an wonderful experice. I will surely go to the link & take the mantras to achive the vision of Sri Thirumoolar ji.
Kindly write if you went through more Spritual Experiences.
Thanks,
Regards,
D.S.Madhavan
D.S. Mahadevan,
Thank you for sharing here.
Desika
PrabhuRV,
Contact is made from within not from without. We can visit all shrines, but may never make a contact. Remember that Siddhar’s saying is that your body is your temple and you can make all contacts only from within. If your desire is strong to make a contact then keep thinking of your favorite siddha and you will be guided.
Thanks,
Desika
Desika Ji,
Thank you very much…I have already started thinking and chanting of siddhar Sri Thirumoolar manthras.. Hope with rigour Practice and thinking i will be get his contact..Pls bless and pray for me..
How did the coconut get up onto the tree? How did the water get into the coconut?
Dear,
I think that the 51 lettered mantra parayanam is an simple yantram or a magic square where in you place numbers 1,2,3,4,5 and ensure that the total count vertically, horizontally and diagnolly in all directions reach 15 ( 1+2+3+4+5=15)
and the letters 1=Na, 2=Si,3=Ma,4=Ya,5=Va and start reading the letters
you get the following phrase which makes meaning,
Om, Vaya Nama Sima Sivaya, Naya Nama Siva Sivaya, Nama Nama sivaya, Om.
Its just out of curiosity that i tried to rework the same as this makes meaning and normally the siddhars leave us a lot of puzzles to solve.
thanks
Balasubramanian.KJ
I think I will share with readers an intense experience I had at ” Thiruvaduthurai” in front of Thirumoolar’s Samadhi. Prior to this visit , I had an experience in life that betrays the most profound teaching of Thirumoolar that ” Love is GOD”. Seeking an answer , I sat in front of his Samadhi all alone, meditating intensely, almost forcefully seeking an explanation why I was wronged while in truth I was always following his principles.
I got in that quietitude, five chirpings of a bird arising indisputably from the centre of his samadhi,like an “asareeri”, the tone of these orderly chirpings communicating that all is well and that I have just faced a karmic experience of my “poorvajanmapapa” and having gone through pain on that account, I have nothing to fear. This experience was extraordinary and within days , I got evidence that I was indeed a blessed person and the situation changed reassuringly in resonance withe the great teaching that ” GOD is love!”. While the details are less important, the actual experience was yet another eye opener how much life is different when experienced at deeper levels. Surely I am slowly on my way to greater revelations and shall turn towards HIM more intensely in the days to come. Thirumoolar is most authentically living in our times and shall grace the chosen ones at will and let us pray and improve our preparedness in shelving aspects of the lower self to desreve his infinite grace.
I would like to be in this group. I am desprate in getting a good contact with the Siddhas. Can somebody help. it should be genuine. I want to talk to them and they must with me throught out my life and be a guiding force. i am very very serious about this.
namaskara desai,
very happy to have come to your site. your info as it is so divinely joyous, added are the various visitors’/ disciples’ experience, words, interpretation…. very nice.
all in all, it all concentrates back to the bindu – “GOD IS LOVE”.
thanks desai.
thanks all visitors’/ disciples of Anantha Guru Sri Thirumoolar.
thank u iya,
i very much interested to contact with siddhar .before that i want to know the babaji kriya yoga pl give me proper way to pratice.
thank u
kgr
Dear friends,
I too was practicing the said yoga.
To say frankly, i was carried away by it. The interest in the material world fully vanished when i was practising 3rd step of the yoga. I was about to leave my home, leaving my family to some temple area as a yogi. My family screamed knowing this and i was in guilt. My attitude fully got modified and i was no where. I was not knowing what to do. Enlightment without fulfilling the duties is of no use. Enlightened freinds can comment on this please.
Soorya
Dear Surya
Your message is a message for everyone who are in search of siddhars and their blessing.Only they can guide us for reaching the almighty.Soorya if u are willing kindly send us your mail id or your number so that we can share further more about the practise and experience.
Dear Desikachari Nadadur
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This site is wonderful site for everyone to share their experience.On behalf of every soul in search of blessings i thank you for this great service.
In the path of Thirumoolar
Balagurunathan
@ Soorya : While reading your post, I was reminded of St.Thayumanavar(south Indian saint). Just thought of sharing it here — It is relevant as this sage was instructed by an enlightened master belonging to the order of Thirumoolar!!(as the author Prof. Natarajan mentions) to lead a householder life before being prepared for further spiritual revelations. I post the link of his biography here thinking it would be benefitable to know how ascended souls help sincere divine seekers when we are ready — http://www.mountainman.com.au/thayumanavar/bkground.htm
Again, Individual karmas are different, let your inner silence speak to you.
P.S : I thought twice before commenting – after reading your last line
– “Enlightened friends can comment on this pls.”
@ Murali : You got it ~ Anbe Sivam
Heart felt wishes to all dedicated souls in realizing God everywhere.
@Soorya,
Siva Yoga and Kriya Yoga are geared mainly towards householders (and celibates can practice as well). Love is God (Anbe Sivam). Bring that love out in everyday activities. You don’t need to leave anything. In fact, these yogas can be practiced by entire families, if all are so inclined. Point of enlightenment is not to run away from the world, but to know that this manifest world is also divine and be in it.
Note that in the story of Thirumoolar, the saint Sundaranathar enters the body of the cowherd Moolan. After tending to the cows he wants to return to his original body, but only finds that his original body was missing. Then, he decides that it was the divine will that he should serve this world in Moolan’s body and so surrenders to it. He was in this world but not of it.
All the Siddhars lived in our human society and worked for its betterment. They were social reformers as well.
Personally speaking I am a householder with a beautiful supportive wife and two wonderful children. It has its ups and downs at times as all human relationships do, but it immensely fulfilling at all levels.
Hope this helps.
Desika
Dear Desika
Thanks for the reply and Courtesy
The philosophy said is quite normal saying and i appreciate.
In my opinion, the meditation will not work same for everybody and it has its own effects on mental and physical energy of the meditator. Learning and practicing meditation through web site or books will definitely lead to confusion and psychological disorders.
Personal guidance of a guru / siddhar only will help. Imagining siddhar for guidance is illusion.
In my case, i recovered to normal after an accident in a temple and I beleive lord Siva only saved me.
To say, I have lot of love for my family and for this soceity and hence i write this.
I am just sharing my experience and humbly request “please do not mistake me”
thanks & regards
Soorya
Soorya,
Don’t worry about being misunderstood. You are among friends here. Thank you very much for sharing your experience. Thirumoolar’s techniques (Siva Yoga and 3DQs) look quite simple, but they are very powerful. In some people they work so fast that it could throw them off balance. You are right that they work differently in different people based on their karmic baggage (body/mind disposition).
Also, there is no illusion in seeking Siddhar’s guidance. A guru need not be physically present or even human. Ramana Maharshi said that Mount Arunachala which is Siva Linga itself was his Satguru. When you practice these techniques of Thirumoolar, you will be guided. It may not seem like you are getting the guidance directly from Siddhar, because at times you will be guided to a book, a person, a website, a dream or some other source to clarify your doubts. Whether you call it Thirumoolar’s guidance or Siva’s guidance or God’s guidance, it does not really matter, because Satguru (who is one with Truth or Siva) is none other than Siva himself.
Thank you for being.
Best,
Desika
@Balagurunathan: Thank you for your blessings.
@Jai Praveen: I hope that you are doing well. I haven’t heard from you in a while. Send a line or two over email.
Best,
Desika
Dear Desika
Thanks.
Nice understanding and explanation
best regards
Soorya
i was chanting mantras (thirumoolar) from 5th jan to 21 jan , on 18th jan i had more temp in my head and it travel to entire body during chanting the mantra after a few days i have got fever, heavycold,and severehead ache.tilldate iam not recover completly.temporarly i stop mantras.pl guide me to go proper way.
thank you
kgr.
Dear Desika,
I have a great interest in knowing siddhas since childhood.. From my small age i have heard many people sharing their experiences like this.. i always wish i had one too.. But could you tell me wheather siddhas really do exist in hills of sathuragiri and thiruvannamalai??? please reply…
Dear KGR
Please stop doing. It is not suitable to you. Otherwise you will go mad.
This is one of the adverse effect of meditation. Beleive in lord Shiva only and say good bye to website meditation. Save you and your family
with regards
Soorya
Dear Rajedrakumar,
This reply is not only for you but for others as well. This article was written with the intention of sharing my experience only, but not as a technique. I did not write this article lightly. I deliberated putting this on my site for more than three months and put it up only after inner push. If you really want the proper technique you need to go to http://www.SivaYoga.com/ and get it from them.
If you had these symptoms in the first day or two of your practice, you could have just sent me an email using the contact form on this site. I am sorry that you are feeling sick. How long were you chanting the mantra per sitting? In the initial stages you should not chant the mantra for more than a 5 mins per day. That was my personal experience. If you feel, headache or some other discomfort during a session just stop. Give it a few days break and try again. If symptoms come back, it may just be that you are not ready for that particular mantra, yet. It is that way not only with this mantra but also other mantras or techniques. Note that all techniques are not for everybody. One size does not fit all. Sometimes even if you are doing the techniques that are right for you, you may initially feel discomfort because of the karmic (read: the stored emotional patterns, etc) stuff coming up. The speed with which they come up varies. You need to stop and reevaluate your situation. If you feel like stopping the techniques altogether, just stop. Don’t need to push yourself.
Please also note that if you are chanting mantra with an intention of having a particular spiritual experience, then that desire may be coming from ego causing a lot of physical and mental pain. You need to approach any technique with humility and surrender to the divine and let the divine give you whatever experience you need to grow.
As Soorya suggests above, Bhakthi or Surrender to the Divine is important. May be your first practice should be just that — Surrender to your favorite form of the divine. If you need to do a specific technique, you will be guided to it and you will not feel the conflicts created by ego at that point. This was the case with me.
Listen to your inner longing (this is not the ego’s desire to have an experience and feel good). Just because someone else is doing it or someone had some experience and you want to reproduce that experience, is the wrong approach. Having spiritual experiences is not the goal. Experiences occur on their own accord depending on what each person needs to learn and gain wisdom.
Develop Self-love and Self-acceptance. When you develop those two, things will appear to you as needed for your evolution and you will not face these issues. With Self-love and Self-acceptance, you will also gain the wisdom of love and acceptance for others.
Be gentle with yourself. Treat your body temple as you would treat a temple you visit — with love and devotion. If you are feeling uncomfortable and sick, then body is telling you to just stop. No guilt needed. Just stop.
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Desika
Soorya: Your suggestion is sound.
Arjun Kumar:
I can’t really answer you questions, since I have not visited the hills you name. To me it does not matter. They live in my heart.
Please read the comment I posted above addressed K. Rajendrakumar.
Thanks,
Desika
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Dear Desika
My suggestion may be sound in your opinion. For me, this shall reach KGR as a fire fighting strategy. If he really gets its trouble, even my suggestion or your suggestion will not help him to reach to his normal. Only almighty has to save him.
Please guys, do not play with your brains…! its is very delicate, gifted by Lord shiva.
Soorya
Dear Desika,
thanks for reply.. As i suggested earlier i have a great interest in knowing about siddhas… cause they are the people who searched god within themselves.. i got a lots of questions about them.. but i dont have people to answer my questions.. so when i saw this blog i had a hope that i will get some solutions cause so many people have got experiences in knowing siddhas… but could you suggest some people who might help me!!
And basically i am an engineering student and i have a great interest in archaeology.. our Tamil manuscripts had possessed many astonishing facts proved , before the foreign people. had said. and about speaking thirumoolar’s thirumanthiram, (heard from my dad) i had learnt many things abt what he had said abt human body, the food we intake and way of living.. … so, i need to know the origins .. so thats why i need some help. . so pls reply!!!!!
dear sir,
now i am recover from illness . can i start chant mantras.
Dear KGR: Glad that you have completely recovered from your illness. As I pointed out in the email that I had sent you, it may have been coincidental with the mantra chanting and we cannot be sure whether mantra chanting was responsible for your illness.
As I mentioned earlier, you should follow your heart. What do you feel? If you feel like chanting, then go ahead. If you don’t feel like chanting, then stop; it is fine too. Following your heart is very important in both spiritual and physical endeavors.
All the best.
Arjun Kumar,
There are several books on the lives of Saiva Saints. You can explore the Kriya Yoga website store, if you are interested: http://www.babaji.ca/english/publications-india.htm . I am not associated with that website, so you need to ask them if you have any questions about the information on that site.
Thanks,
Desika
Dear Desika,
thank u so much.. for replying.. and thank u for the suggestion..
You are very welcome, Arjun.
Desika
Dear Arjun Kumar,
Desika has a very good suggestion to go to babji.ca website and check out their publications. I have been doing the lessons from sivayoga.com since November of last year and have had many profound experiences and a remarkable quickening of my spiritual evolution. As a result, I decided that I wanted to know about Thirumoolar and the Siddha tradition and started ordering books from sivayoga.com’s book list. One of them, Babaji and the 18 Siddha Kriya Yoga Tradition, you can order from the site Desika recommended. It is one of my favorites and has given me a deep appreciation and understanding of the Siddhas’ lives, philosophy and service to humanity. There are beautiful paintings of the 18 Siddhas too.
Namaste.
Camille